What Experts Say About AEO, GEO, and AI Search
The Definitive Guide for B2B SaaS Marketing Leaders Navigating AI-Powered Search
Note on Expert Perspectives: Expert viewpoints in this article are sourced from their published works, conference talks, podcasts, and public statements—linked throughout for verification. Where perspectives are attributed, they represent the author’s synthesis of each expert’s publicly documented positions, not direct interview quotes unless explicitly noted. |
Your Prospects Are Getting Answers Without Clicking Your Website
Here is a reality check for every B2B SaaS marketer: over 60% of Google searches now end without a single click (SparkToro/Datos, 2024). Your carefully crafted landing pages, your SEO-optimized blog posts, your conversion-tuned product pages—they are increasingly invisible to buyers who get their answers directly from AI.
Google’s AI Overviews now appear in roughly 15–25% of all searches (Semrush 10M Keyword Study, 2025). Top-ranking content has seen a 34.5% drop in click-through rates when AI Overviews appear (Ahrefs 300K Keyword Study, April 2025)—and an updated Ahrefs study from December 2025 found that drop has worsened to 58% (Ahrefs Updated Study, Feb 2026). Meanwhile, traffic from AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity surged by 357% year-over-year in June 2025 (Similarweb Generative AI Report, 2025). The search landscape your marketing team optimized for three years ago no longer exists.
This is where two terms you are hearing everywhere come in: Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and Generative Engine Optimization (GEO). Together, these strategies represent the new frontier of AI Search optimization—a fundamental shift in how your B2B buyers discover, evaluate, and shortlist software solutions.
We dug into the research—including the landmark GEO study from Princeton, Georgia Tech, Allen Institute for AI, and IIT Delhi published at KDD 2024—and compiled what 15 leading experts are actually saying. For each expert, we’ve included links to their most famous resources so you can go deeper. Here is what B2B SaaS marketers need to know, why it matters, and exactly what to do about it.
AEO vs. GEO: What Is the Actual Difference?
The terminology can be confusing, so let us cut through the noise. Here is how Neil Patel, one of the most recognized voices in digital marketing, frames it in his GEO vs AEO guide:
Neil Patel has argued that AEO and GEO are fundamentally different strategies that most marketers wrongly treat as interchangeable. AEO helps your content show up as a direct answer, while GEO is built for AI-powered results like Google’s AI Overviews and ChatGPT. Confusing them, he warns, is a strategic mistake. — Neil Patel, Co-Founder of NP Digital (neilpatel.com, Dec 2025) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Neil Patel: • Blog Series: GEO vs AEO: What’s the Difference? (Dec 2025) • Blog: AEO vs GEO vs LLMO: Are They All SEO? (Dec 2025) • Podcast: Marketing School: GEO, SEO, AI SEO, AEO… Which One Will Win? (61M+ series downloads) • Guide: GEO vs SEO: Understanding the Differences (Aug 2025) |
Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)
AEO is about structuring your content so AI systems can extract it as the direct answer to a specific question. Think of it as winning the equivalent of Google’s featured snippet, but across every AI surface—Google AI Overviews, AI Mode, voice assistants, and ChatGPT Search.
Best for: High-intent, short-answer queries like “How much does [your product] cost?” or “What is SOC 2 compliance?”
Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)
GEO goes deeper. It is about making your content authoritative and substantive enough that LLMs like ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity cite you as a trusted source when they synthesize comprehensive answers to complex questions.
Best for: Complex, research-oriented queries like “What should I consider when choosing an identity management platform for a 500-person company?”
Why You Need Both
Experts are unanimous on this point: AEO and GEO are complementary, not interchangeable. Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite (the leading AEO agency working with Webflow, Upwork, and Notion), prefers the AEO umbrella term because it focuses narrowly on answer quality—but acknowledges that everything that works in SEO works in AEO, with additional strategies needed for LLM-specific citation optimization (Lenny’s Podcast, Sep 2025).
🔗 Dive Deeper with Ethan Smith: • Podcast: Lenny’s Podcast: The Ultimate Guide to AEO (1hr 12min, Sep 2025) • YouTube: How to Get ChatGPT to Recommend Your Product (High engagement) • Research: Graphite: The 5% of Traffic That Matters Most (ChatGPT converts 6x better) |
What 15 Leading Experts Actually Say About AI Search
We compiled positions from the industry’s most influential voices—including leaders from Semrush, Ahrefs, NP Digital, SparkToro, Graphite, and more. Here is the landscape of expert opinion, distilled for B2B SaaS marketers:
Expert | Affiliation | Core Position | Key Recommendation |
Neil Patel | NP Digital | AEO and GEO are distinct but complementary; most marketers wrongly treat them as the same | Use AEO for short queries; GEO for complex topics; combine with SEO as triple-threat |
Lily Ray | Amsive (VP, SEO) | Good SEO IS good AEO; beware “GEO grifters”; AI search supplements, not replaces | Focus on E-E-A-T, information gain, off-site reputation |
Tim Soulo | Ahrefs (CMO) | AI search hype is overblown; core SEO still applies; don’t ignore YouTube | YouTube may drive more value than all LLMs combined |
Ethan Smith | Graphite (CEO) | AEO is the evolution of SEO; ChatGPT traffic converts 6x better | Target question clusters; build diversity of citations |
Rand Fishkin | SparkToro | Zero-click universe; traffic is a terrible goal; build influence | Zero-click marketing: create value where audiences already are |
Michael King | iPullRank | Answers over rankings; “Relevance Engineering” as new framework | Optimize across all AI platforms; focus on semantic richness |
Ross Simmonds | Foundation Mktg | Create Once, Distribute Forever; off-site presence essential | Seed brand on Reddit, Quora, LinkedIn, YouTube |
Andrea Volpini | WordLift | Knowledge Graphs and structured data are foundational to AI visibility | Build Schema.org markup, JSON-LD, semantic metadata |
Marie Haynes | MH Consulting | Extreme E-E-A-T now required for YMYL content in AI-first search | Prioritize credentials, trust signals, first-hand experience |
Kevin Indig | Growth Advisor | SEO entering new investment cycle; zero-click rising but volume up | Scale content depth; shift from ranked lists to definitive answers |
Danny Sullivan | Good SEO is good GEO; write for humans, not LLMs | Focus on helpful content; avoid AI tricks at expense of quality | |
Andrew Holland | JBH (SEO Dir.) | Future isn’t GEO—it’s Organic Revenue Growth; fame engineering | Increase relative fame; make brand search your priority |
Tushar Pol | Semrush | GEO fundamentals overlap with SEO; track AI share of voice | Use AI Visibility Toolkit; publish original research |
Patrick Stox | Ahrefs | AEO/GEO is evolution, not revolution; most SEO “works for free” | Keep technical foundations strong; create parsable content |
Deepak Gupta | GrackerAI (CEO) | AI Search visibility is #1 growth lever for B2B SaaS in 2026 | Monitor AI citations; build content intelligence systems |

Five Themes Every B2B SaaS Marketer Must Internalize
1. Traditional SEO Tactics Are Failing in AI Search
The Princeton, Georgia Tech, Allen Institute for AI, and IIT Delhi research paper on GEO (published at KDD 2024), tested nine different content optimization strategies and found something alarming: keyword stuffing—the backbone of traditional SEO—actually hurt visibility in generative engine responses.
When tested on Perplexity.ai, keyword-stuffed content performed 10% worse than unoptimized content. The strategies that actually worked:
Quotation Addition (+40% visibility): Embedding credible quotes from recognized experts or studies
Statistics Addition (+37% on Perplexity): Replacing vague claims with concrete data points
Cite Sources (+30–40% visibility): Adding inline references to authoritative sources
Fluency Optimization (+15–30%): Making content structurally clear and readable for LLM parsing
The GEO research demonstrated that content optimized with citations, statistics, and expert quotations boosted visibility by up to 40% in generative engine responses—while keyword stuffing actually decreased it. These findings held across multiple generative engines and query types. — GEO Research Paper, KDD 2024 (Princeton / Georgia Tech / IIT Delhi) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with The Research: • Paper: GEO: Generative Engine Optimization (Full Paper) (arXiv / KDD 2024) • Published: ACM Digital Library — KDD ’24 Proceedings (Peer-reviewed) • Tool: GEO Benchmark — Test Your Content Against GEO Strategies (Open-source) • Study: Semrush: 10M Keywords — AI Overviews Frequency (Mar 2025) |
2. Information Gain Is the New Competitive Moat
Multiple experts converge on one principle: AI systems want information gain—unique data, firsthand experience, original research, or perspectives that cannot be found elsewhere.
Lily Ray, VP of SEO Strategy and Research at Amsive, warns against what she calls “GEO grifters.” At her highly acclaimed MozCon 2025 keynote, she emphasized that 95% of ChatGPT users still use Google, and that strong SEO fundamentals remain the best path to AI visibility.
Lily Ray has consistently emphasized that the core work of SEO—building authoritative, well-structured content—already goes a long way toward earning AI search visibility. In her view, most brands don’t need an entirely new playbook; strong SEO fundamentals are sufficient to generate significant AI search presence. — Lily Ray, VP of SEO Strategy & Research, Amsive (Aug 2025) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Lily Ray: • Keynote: MozCon 2025: GEO, AEO, LLMO — Separating Fact from Fiction (Full transcript + slides) • Newsletter: A Reflection on SEO, GEO & AI Search in 2025 (Substack) • Slides: Lily Ray — SlideShare Presentations Library (Multiple decks) • Research: SEO, GEO, or ASO? What to Call the New Era (Search Engine Land, Nov 2025) |
Tim Soulo, CMO of Ahrefs, brings a contrarian but data-backed perspective. He points out that all LLMs combined drive less than 1% of total site traffic, while YouTube is consistently overlooked. His advice: don’t over-invest in AI assistant optimization at the expense of proven channels like video.
🔗 Dive Deeper with Tim Soulo: • Podcast: SEO in the Age of AI (Empire Flippers) • Podcast: Ahrefs Podcast: Answer Engine Optimization w/ Patrick Stox (Spotify) • Articles: Tim Soulo — Author Page on Ahrefs Blog (44+ articles) • Interview: Inside Ahrefs’ $100M Growth (Siege Media) (Mar 2025) |
3. Off-Site Reputation Now Gates AI Inclusion
LLMs validate your claims against third-party sources. Ross Simmonds, founder of Foundation Marketing and Distribution.ai, has built an entire philosophy around this reality with his “Create Once, Distribute Forever” model.
As Ethan Smith of Graphite puts it:
Michael King has argued that LLMs fundamentally reward originality over repetition. As he sees it, too much SEO content is derivative—one site rewriting another’s article, creating “derivatives of derivatives.” AI models, by contrast, seek out diversity of opinion and the wisdom of the crowd, making original perspectives far more valuable than rehashed content. — Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite (AirOps Webinar, Dec 202 5) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Ross Simmonds: • Book: Create Once, Distribute Forever (Foundational framework) • Platform: Distribution.ai — AI Content Distribution Automation (Dec 2025 launch) • LinkedIn: Ross Simmonds — Strategic SEO, AEO & GEO Posts (High engagement) • Article: LinkedIn Algorithm Deep Dive (Dec 2025) • Interview: Staying Visible in AI Search in 2026 (Dec 2025) |
Only 12% of URLs cited by ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Copilot rank in Google’s top 10, and 80% of LLM citations don’t even rank in Google’s top 100 (Ahrefs, August 2025). This is a massive opportunity for mid-market SaaS companies.
4. Machine Readability Is Non-Negotiable
Andrea Volpini, founder of WordLift, argues that the future of search is built on Knowledge Graphs and structured data. AI crawlers parse your content differently than human readers, and if your content is not structured for machine consumption, it will not be cited.
🔗 Dive Deeper with Andrea Volpini: • Podcast: Knowledge Graph Insights: Role of Memory in Digital Branding for AI (Episode 27) • Conference: Knowledge Graph Conference 2025 — LLM + KG Integration (Keynote) • Articles: Search Engine Journal Author Page • LinkedIn: Andrea Volpini — AI, Knowledge Graphs & Semantic SEO (Active thought leader) |
Patrick Stox of Ahrefs reinforces that keeping technical SEO foundations strong is essential. At Ahrefs Evolve 2025, he presented data showing that AI-driven visitors converted at a 23x higher rate for Ahrefs—with only 0.5% of AI visitors producing 12.1% of signups.
🔗 Dive Deeper with Patrick Stox: • Presentation: GEO? AEO? LLMO? (Ahrefs Evolve 2025 Slides) (Full deck) • Webinar: Ahrefs Webinar: AI Search Strategies with Patrick Stox • Podcast: Ahrefs Podcast: World's Top SEO Expert Busts AI Search Myths (Spotify) • Podcast: Marketing Speak #539: Cutting-Edge AEO Strategies (Feb 2026) • Articles: Patrick Stox — Author Page on Ahrefs Blog (Extensive library) |
Here is what the technical implementation looks like for B2B SaaS:
Schema.org markup (JSON-LD): Implement FAQ, HowTo, SoftwareApplication, and Organization schemas
Modular content structure: Write in self-contained 200-word sections under clear question headings
llms.txt file: Create in your root directory for AI crawler instructions
Multimodal readiness: Add transcripts to videos, descriptive alt text, structured metadata
5. The Label Debate Matters Less Than Execution
There is an active debate. Ethan Smith prefers “AEO.” Michael King coined “Relevance Engineering.” Andrew Holland says “fame engineering” is the future. Google’s Danny Sullivan cuts through it all:
Lily Ray has been vocal that good SEO and good GEO are essentially the same thing. Her consistent advice: write for humans and for people, not for LLMs. She has warned that chasing AI-specific tricks can actually backfire, as search engines and AI models alike reward authentic, useful content over manipulative tactics. — Danny Sullivan, Google Search Director (WordCamp US, Aug 2 025) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Danny Sullivan: • Keynote: Google's Danny Sullivan: 'Good SEO is Good GEO' (Search Engine Land, Sep 2025) • Podcast: Search Off the Record: SEO for AI is Still SEO (Dec 2025) • Article: 5 Things from Danny Sullivan's WordCamp US Talk (Detailed summary) • Analysis: Danny Sullivan's Farewell: Timeless SEO & GEO Tips (Sep 202 5) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Michael King: • Publication: The AI Search Manual (Multi-Chapter, Nov 2025) (Definitive guide) • Article: How AI Mode Works — Google Patent Breakdown (May 2025, 550+ LinkedIn reactions) • Conference: SEO Week 2025 NYC — 40+ Top Speakers (Founded by King) • Award: 2025 AI Search Marketer of the Year (Search Engine Land, 2nd win) • Podcast: Optimizing the New Search: Relevance Engineer ing (Jul 2025) |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Andrew Holland: • Article: Fame Engineering: The Key to Generative Engine Optimization (Sep 2025) • Article: Why AI Availability Is the New Battleground for Brands (Nov 2025) • Author Page: Andrew Holland — All Articles on Search Engine Land (Monthly columns) |
As Deepak Gupta, CEO of GrackerAI, observes:
At GrackerAI, we’ve observed a clear pattern: the companies winning in AI Search are not the ones debating whether to call it AEO, GEO, or LLMO. They are the ones building content intelligence systems that monitor, optimize, and iterate on their presence across every AI platform simultaneously. The name is irrelevant. The execution is everything. — Deepak Gupta, CEO of GrackerAI |
What the Princeton/IIT Delhi Research Proves for B2B Content
The GEO research paper quantified which strategies increase visibility in AI-generated responses. The most important finding for B2B: GEO methods disproportionately benefit lower-ranked websites. Content ranked fifth saw visibility increases of up to 115% with proper optimization, while top-ranked content actually lost ground.
For mid-market SaaS companies competing against enterprise incumbents, AI Search platforms represent the best opportunity to get in front of buyers. The playing field is leveling because AI cares more about content substance than domain authority.
Domain-Specific Strategies Matter
For factual content (product comparisons): Adding citations performed best
For opinion/thought leadership: Statistics Addition was most effective
For explanatory content (how-to guides): Quotation Addition from authorities boosted visibility most
For business/commercial content: Fluency Optimization showed strongest gains
The combination effect: Fluency + Statistics outperformed any single strategy by over 5.5%. Do not pick one approach—layer them.
More Expert Resources Worth Exploring
Here are additional high-impact resources from the remaining experts featured in this guide:
🔗 Dive Deeper with Marie Haynes: • Book: SEO in the Gemini Era — How AI Changed Google Search (Jun 2024, with workbooks) • Podcast: Search News You Can Use (Weekly) (Apple Podcasts) • Workbook: Quality Raters Guidelines Workbook (2025 Edition) • Community: The Search Bar — Marie Haynes Community • Newsletter: Marie |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Kevin Indig: • Newsletter: The Growth Memo (9,000+ subscribers) • Research: First-Ever AI Overviews Usability Study (70 Users) (Collaboration w/ dofollow) • Podcast: WTF is SEO: Ask a News SEO — Kevin Indig (Jul 2025) • Podcast: Contrarian Marketing (Co |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Tushar Pol (Semrush): • Guide: Generative Engine Optimization: The New Era of Search (Comprehensive) • Guide: Answer Engine Optimization Guide • Tool: Semrush AI Visibility Toolkit (Track AI share of voice) • Study: Impact of AI Search on SEO |
🔗 Dive Deeper with Tushar Pol (Semrush): • Guide: Generative Engine Optimization: The New Era of Search (Comprehensive) • Guide: Answer Engine Optimization Guide • Tool: Semrush AI Visibility Toolkit (Track AI share of voice) • Study: Impact of AI Search on SEO Traffic (4.4x conversions) |
The 90-Day AEO/GEO Playbook for B2B SaaS Teams
Days 1–30: Build the Technical Foundation
Audit your Schema.org markup. Implement JSON-LD for Organization, SoftwareApplication, FAQ, and HowTo schemas.Deeper with Tushar Pol
Create an llms.txt file in your root directory with explicit instructions for AI crawlers.
Restructure your top 20 pages into modular, 200-word sections under clear question-based headings.
Establish baseline KPIs for AI Search visibility using Semrush AI Visibility Toolkit, Otterly, or Profound.
Add citations, statistics, and expert quotes to your five highest-traffic blog posts.
Days 31–60: Launch Your Content and Distribution Engine
Publish your first original research piece (customer survey, benchmark report, or product usage data analysis).
Build a systematic distribution workflow: every piece of content gets repurposed for LinkedIn, Reddit, Quora, and YouTube.
Create author pages with credentials for every content contributor. Demonstrate E-E-A-T.
Optimize product documentation and FAQs with concise 2–4 sentence answers to high-intent questions.
Days 61–90: Measure, Iterate, Expand
Audit AI citations: Query your top 50 terms across ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, and Google AI Overviews.
Analyze which content strategies are driving the most AI visibility in your specific domain.
Expand to additional AI surfaces beyond Google—optimize for Claude, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Copilot.
Plan your Q2 original research calendar based on what AI systems are hungry for in your space.
How to Measure Success When Clicks Are Not the Goal
As Rand Fishkin argues in his zero-click marketing framework, traffic is a vanishing metric. New KPIs for B2B SaaS:
AI Citation Frequency: How often is your brand cited in AI responses for target queries?
LLM Share of Voice: What % of the time are you mentioned when AI recommends in your category?
Brand Mention Accuracy: When AI mentions your product, is it positioning you correctly?
AI Referral Conversion Rate: LLM visitors convert 4.4–6x better—are you tracking this segment?
AI Overview Citation Rate: How often does your content appear in AI Overviews?
Tools like Semrush AI Visibility Toolkit (semrush.com), Otterly.AI, Profound, Scrunch, and GrackerAI help track these. Build a dashboard querying your top 50 terms across AI platforms weekly.
For a deeper dive on winning B2B buyers specifically through AI search channels, see our complete guide to winning B2B buyers in AI search, which covers the full buyer journey optimization strategy from awareness through purchase decision.
Essential Deep Research, Case Studies & Reports
For readers who want to go even deeper, here are the most important research papers, case studies, and data reports driving the AEO/GEO conversation:
Foundational Research Papers
Aggarwal, P., Murahari, V., et al. (2024). GEO: Generative Engine Optimization KDD ’24 Proceedings.
Ahrefs. (2025–2026). AI Overviews Reduce Clicks by 34.5%–58% (300K+ keyword study).
Semrush. (2025). We Studied the Impact of AI Search on SEO Traffic (LLM visitors convert 4.4x better).
Similarweb. (2025). 2025 Generative AI Report — AI referral traffic up 357% YoY.
Industry Reports & Benchmarks
Gartner. (2024). Predicts Search Engine Volume Will Drop 25% by 2026.
Conductor. (2026). The 2026 AEO/GEO Benchmarks Report (35.7M AI sessions analyzed).
Previsible. (2026). 2025 State of AI Discovery Report — 527% AI traffic surge Jan–May 2025.
SparkToro/Datos. (2025). State of Search 2025 — 60%+ zero-click searches.
Expert Publications & Must-Read Guides
King, M. (2025). The AI Search Manual — Complete Guide to Relevance Engineering (iPullRank, Nov 2025).
Haynes, M. (2024). SEO in the Gemini Era — Book on how AI changed Google Search.
Simmonds, R. (2024). Create Once, Distribute Forever — Book on content distribution strategy.
Smith, E. (2025). The Ultimate Guide to AEO (Lenny’s Podcast) — 7-step playbook for ChatGPT ranking.
Tools for AI Search Monitoring
Track your AI visibility across platforms with these tools: Semrush AI Visibility Toolkit | GrackerAI | Otterly.AI | Profound | Ahrefs Brand Radar | Conductor AISP
Industry Coverage & Press
The AEO/GEO space is attracting significant industry attention. Here is notable press coverage from both GrackerAI and major competitors entering this market:
GrackerAI Coverage:
• AP News: GrackerAI Launches Industry’s First GEO Platform for Cybersecurity SaaS
• USA Today: SF Startup Launches First Platform to Track Brand Visibility in ChatGPT, Claude, AI Search Engines
• Markets Herald: $68B SEO Industry Faces First Real Threat: Why VCs Betting on GEO
• Belmont Star: Cybersecurity Buyers Asking AI for Vendor Recommendations
Other AEO/GEO Expert Companies Coverage (Market Validation):
• Semrush (March 2025): Semrush Unveils AI Toolkit for AI Brand Perception — AI Visibility Toolkit for ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity tracking
• Ahrefs (Jan 2026): Ahrefs Launches Custom AI Prompt Tracking for Brand Visibility — Brand Radar with 200M+ prompts across 6+ AI platforms
• Conductor (June 2025): Conductor Launches Revolutionary AI Platform to Amplify AI Visibility — Enterprise AEO with real-time AI indexing
The fact that Semrush, Ahrefs, and Conductor are all launching AEO/GEO products validates the core thesis of this guide: AI search optimization is no longer optional for B2B SaaS companies.
The Bottom Line
The shift from search engines to answer engines is not coming—it is here. Gartner predicted a 25% drop in traditional search volume by 2026 (Gartner, February 2024). Ahrefs’ latest data shows AI Overviews reduce clicks by 58%. AI referral traffic is up 357% and converts 4.4–6x better.
The threat is real: invisible to AI means invisible to a growing segment of buyers. The opportunity is equally real: generative engines care more about content quality than domain authority, meaning mid-market SaaS companies can compete in ways impossible in traditional search.
As Deepak Gupta of GrackerAI emphasizes, the companies that dominate the next decade are those that treat AI Search visibility as a core revenue channel today. The experts are clear. The research is clear. The data is clear. The question is not whether to invest in AEO, GEO, and AI Search optimization—it is how fast you can start.